So Who's Next

[LB]

Bud & Bush now owned by other countries....who's next? jack daniles, Jim Beam, Harley- Davidson....when will we say enough already!!!!!

I am a christian and try to keep my mouth & thoughts in check......but as one who's put his ASS on the line for this country and what it stands (or stood) for .....I've had just about enough of this BS with it being sold off piece by piece to other countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At this rate there wont be an America too much longer and that REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!!

[richard]

My guess General Motors........


Seems like anyone with enough money can buy just about anything. Actually you might not even have to have money.... just credit! (hasn't George W borrowed to support our war???)

It's all about money..... bottom lines ..... share holders ...... Obviously it was a "good decision" for someone. I just don't think there are loyalties to anything anymore...... it's just dollars and cents! I know not every person or business operates that way.... but it certainly seems more rare these days!

"hell in a hand basket"

It's sad for sure!

[gomorley]

In reference to Budweiser, only good can come from this takeover after all the Belgians are the best beer brewers in the world, aren't they?

[LB]

Originally Posted by gomorley

In reference to Budweiser, only good can come from this takeover after all the Belgians are the best beer brewers in the world, aren't they?

You're missing the point, doesn't matter if it tastes like cold piss.....its another American company sold to the highest overseas bidder. I concider it a slap in the face to ALL those that have ever worn the uniform of an American soldier and fault not only for freedom, but to defend this great country of ours. What were they firghting for, to keep this country safe so other countries can come in a buy it up one piece or company at a time!?

[gomorley]

If it tasted like cold piss (American or not) no-one would want it anyway, but wasn't the name Budweiser stolen from a company in the Czech Republic?

[LB]

Originally Posted by gomorley

If it tasted like cold piss (American or not) no-one would want it anyway, but wasn't the name Budweiser stolen from a company in the Czech Republic?

What it tastes like or where the name came from isn't the point. The point is its another American company thats been sold. If England or the UK were going through the same thing, what you're saying (if I understand you correctly) is it would be no big deal to you?

[richard]

I'd offer to buy you a beer or two...... (I personally never liked Bud)


I wrote a long reply...... but not sure if I should keep this going.

I never served ..... I was never shot at ..... so I do not have the same perspective..... hell I don't even have a tattoo....... BUT I do have my opinion right or wrong! And am able to speak my mind..... BECAUSE others fought for that right!

When it comes to business....... I am a firm believer in competition...... it would be much better on a"fair playing field" so everyone is on equal footing... then the best wins..... and the rest have to try harder!

OK... I'll post the other one too.....

[richard]

I don't think it is the "other countries" that are to blame for this. I think you have to ask yourself..... who is it that is doing the selling???? It's not like they are being forced to sell...... if it was a bad thing for all the stock holders.... it would never be sold.

I understand how you feel...... but it isn't exactly like people losing their jobs as the company moves to another country.

Years ago I interviewed for a job at a GM plant. People would flatten your tires if you drove a foreign car to work. They didn't even like other US brands. Once inside I had a tour..... The thing that surprised me most was seeing japanese machinery..... It made me wonder...WTF. How can you be upset with what I drive when this American company uses foreign machinery! (I was driving a GM vehicle at the time).

How many parts on a Harley Davidson are made in the US??? and how many are made overseas? Yet it is still an American motorcycle. I worked for Xerox years ago and one of their copiers was assembled here but lots of the parts came from other countries. I forget what the actual percentage of parts made in the US is to be able to say "made in USA".

We have great freedom here in the US...... even to be able to sell our businesses to high bidders from other countries. We can speak our minds and we can be pissed......

There's no good answer! I know people who invest in foreign countries businesses and make money doing it...... the results would not be the same in US companies (but these things change all the time). Is he wrong for doing it? I don't think so..... it is something we can do living here in the USA.


I have been watching Kodak slowly being torn down and split up and bought by other companies. I never ever would have thought. My father worked there, my grandfather worked there, whole families..... it is not like that anymore. I think in their hey day they employed 60000 people now they have around 14000. (quite a change!)

[LB]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I don't blame the foreign companies or countries for having good business smarts. The blame falls on those in this country that are lining their pockets and allowing this to continue. Actually I enjoy other opinions, and sometimes I actually learn from them. I think they have a name for it ( debate ). I am just upset at this (my) country being sold off piece by piece.

[jerseymutt]

Originally Posted by gomorley

If it tasted like cold piss (American or not) no-one would want it anyway, but wasn't the name Budweiser stolen from a company in the Czech Republic?

Some of the Bush family when they lived in Germany used to vacation in the town of Budj------- pronounced Budweiser (in German) in the Czec Republic. Note German is not the language of the country. When Adolfhus (?) Bush got the recipe for Bud from a monk he named it after the town he remembered fondly as a kid where his family took him on vacation.

The Czec's, as in other places in Europe, have a tradition of naming the brewery in the town after the town because the brewing in the olden days was something the whole town participated in. Budj------- had a brewery already in the town and it was not named after the town. The brewery that carry's the towns name was started aproximately 10 years after commercial production of Budweiser started in the US.

So American Bud claims the name and so does the Czec Bud and they have been fighting ever since. After WWI they came to an agreement that Czec Bud would be sold under the name Crystal Beer anywhere that American Bud was sold including the US. They have sinced dropped the name and there is another beer being sold under the name Crystal and it's from South America - no relation to either Bud. Czec Bud is now being sold in this country under the name Budvar.

The different languages have something to do with all the confusion too. I am sorry I don't have all my books here to look up things like names, spelling and dates so some of what I am telling you may be inacurate but the jist of it is correct. So no, Budweiser did not steal the name from a Czec company and yes (eventhough I am drinking one right now) American Bud does suck and Budvar is very good and yes is it a shame to see another American company sold to a foreign owned company no matter how much I like Inbevs other products. Just like it was a shame Miller was sold to South African Breweries and the Chrysler building was sold to the United Arab (whatever the name of that country is).

So even though the USA bought up all kind of foreign companies after WW2 when the dollar was valued very high I hate to see the USA being sold off to the highest bidder now that the dollar is week. I don't know how all this will play out in the global market but I do think the life style that my parents knew, sadly, is something that is gone for ever.

Please note: Breweries are being sold in the UK to at an alarming rate and English beers are undergoing many changes, not for the better. Just ask any member of CAMRA. I know my Green King Abbott Ale and Ruddles County ain't what it used to be.

Mutt

PS I made a rule for myself to never post when I have been drinking but as soon as I start drinking I start breaking my own rules - sorry.